with you, but i'm with you. i'm thinking, why can't you say anything? well, because i'm worried about being targeted or i don't want to get involved in the politics of it. what i say is no, you have to get involved. i believe the vast majority of teachers know the system is broken, know things need to be fixed, and are willing to engage and want to engage in the policy debates. they just want there to be a safe space to do that in. >> speaking of safe space, you want to move fast, go along, but you want to go far, go together. it seems to me if we're going to have a debate, teachers union against reform groups we're going to be stuck in debates. small victories, but at the end of the day we got to go together. is there a framework where you sat down and you're starting to reach out and vice versa, the unions reach out, and we all agree we're way behind in internals of international scores. it's getting worse.